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Pre-Trib Error is Critical

The Reformation
When the truth finally broke free from captivity within the Vatican and Roman Catholic Church, the world was blessed with an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the message of Grace spread throughout Europe and the rest of the world.

As a result, the corrupt Vatican suffered from an exodus of members who took their tithes and offerings with them. This of course was initiated by Martin Luther’s proclamation of the heresies of ‘Rome’ and the 95 thesis’ or objections being nailed to the front door of All Saints’ Church in Wittenberg, Germany. Did Luther and others in those days realize the significance of weapon they did wield?

Could this be the grievous headwound of the beast spoken of in Revelation (Rev. 13:3) that was miraculously or possibly mysteriously brought back to life? (Rev. 13:12)

Here is a list of a few others deserving appreciation.

Pre-reformers
BJan Hus (1374-1415)
Girolamo Savonarola (1452-1498)
Peter Waldo (1140-1217)
John Wycliffe (1329-84)
Source: Reformation Tours
Reformers
Theodore Beza (1519-1605)
Martin Bucer (1491-1551)
John Calvin (1509-1564)
John Knox (1505-1572)
Katharina Von Bora (1499-1552)
Philip Melanchthon (1497–1560)
William Tyndale (1496-1561)
Ulrich Zwingli (1484-1531)
Martin Luther, Wittenberg door

Martin Luther, Wittenberg door

This protest, from which the title ‘Protestant’ originates, began the period of the resurrection of the Gospel of grace that had been suppressed by the Roman Catholic Church for well over 600 years in which 50 million Christians died in martyrdom, many in flames and vats of oil and others in the torture chambers and dungeons of the “One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.” This is the period from 1203 to 1805 known as the Dark Ages which was overlapped by another 200 years of religious wars call the Crusades (1095 to 1291).

For several hundred years, the fruit of the Reformation would produce perhaps the greatest advancement of human rights and societal progress of every form the world has ever achieved. The most notable fruit of this reformation in Christianity is the United States of America. As a result of the understanding of grace and the complete and sufficient work of Christ’s death on the Cross, a nation would base it’s very foundation of government on the God-given, inalienable rights of mankind and flourish in magnificent proportion in an environment of freedom, liberty, respect, and grace.

But as the Reformation continued to produce a unity of believers who accepted God’s precious Gift, the corrupt and satanically influenced elements of the Roman Catholic Church would begin to strategies on ways to regain its power and control of ‘believers’ and increase its membership numbers.

Enter the Dragon
The age-old tactic Satan uses most frequently to sabotage and destroy any organization, group, or family would soon be devised. What needed to be done to this nearly unstoppable movement of humanitarian progress under the blessing of grace through faith would be a poisoning from within; the poison of division. And so a plan was devised to divide and conquer the churches of the Reformation by corrupting the pulpit sermon with a false interpretation of Scripture, the Word of God.

There are many topics or doctrines in the ‘non-catholic’ church that are disputed and many have divided denominations from each other and some have even split a single congregation into several offshoots. I believe that the most damaging error and dangerous interpretation of Scripture is leading to perhaps the greatest religious hoax since Mohammed the false prophet and that is the teaching of the Pre-tribulation rapture.

Although many denominations and individual believers can come together in peaceful discussion of spiritual matters under the disclaimer that “rapture teaching” is not ‘salvific'(who wants credit for this ‘Romanesc’ word?), unforeseen dangers of the rapture teaching are becoming problematic if not downright alarming. As we enter a more noticeable period of time that gives evidence to the potential evils of man and what hideous weapons and agents would likely be used in a random or perhaps ‘deliberate’ catastrophic and chaotic event of civilization on a global scale, the continued promotion of an early “escape” of Christians requires more than a disclaimer. The correct interpretation of the Scriptures is that there is no end-time 7 year tribulatory period demarcated as more significant than the tribulation of saints throughout history. And an early “rapturing” is not only serious for the preparation of persecution and tribulation of believers and what we may have to endure if all of hell is let loose, but may in the end be a salvational issue. Really?!

Why the Pre-Trib Rapture Error Could Effect Salvation

There are many scenarios as to why the ‘pre-trib’ error could lead to eternal damnation but here is an example of one or two. The first and most obvious is a warning to pastors and teachers who continue to espouse this doctrine under the spirit of delusion, ignorance, pride, or selfishness. The warning is this: If the ‘sheep’ find themselves on a railroad cattle car bound for a FEMA ‘re-education’ camp to be sorted at a medical facility injecting bio-chip tracking and control devices into the wrists and have not been prepared to say ‘NO’, what will be result?

Will these people somewhere along the line begin to curse those that have been telling them that they would escape ‘tribulation?’ Will the end-time ‘pre-trib rapture’ lie lead to the great falling away as millions of Christians under a delusion are disappointed, disheartened, and DE-MORALIZED as a result of deception and false expectation?

This is only one hypothesis to a tribulatory period that might result of a global economic or political meltdown but is one suggested by a number of eschatologist and scholars as well as arm-chair watchman of which category I should soon be put.

Article continues after Q&A

Questions and Answers (emphasis mine)

Parable of the Wheat and Tares (Weeds)
1. When is the Lord’s harvest?
Answer: The end of the age. (“The harvest is the end of the age,”)

39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. – Mat 13:39 ESV

2. How long do believers and unbelievers stay together?
Answer: Until the harvest. (“Let both grow together until the harvest)
3. When is the great separating or gathering?
Answer: At harvest time. (“and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather…”)
4. Who gets gathered (taken) first?
Answer: The Weeds. (“Gather the weeds first…”)
5. Who gets burned?
Answer: The Weeds. (“Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned,”)
6. Who gets stored or “preserved?”
Answer: The Wheat. (“but gather the wheat into my barn.”)

30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn. – Mat 13:30 ESV

Gather Into My Barn

Parable of the Net
7. What is the net?
Answer: The kingdom of heaven. (the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net“)
8. What does the sea represent?
Answer: The habitat of every kind (The world is the sea and the people are the fish.)
9. When is the net cast?
Answer: At the ‘kingdom of heaven.’ (the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast“)
10. When is the net pulled in?
Answer: When it is full (complete/finished/’at the end’). (when it was full, they drew to shore)
11. Who all were pulled in (caught)?
Answer: Every Kind (believers and unbelievers). (a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind“)
12. Who were stored or ‘preserved?’
Answer: The good. (they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels“)
13. Who were discarded?
Answer: The bad. (but cast the bad away.“)
14. When will this net casting be?’
Answer: At the end of the world. (“So shall it be at the end of the world:”)
15. Who are removed from the combined wicked and just?
Answer: The wicked. (the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just“)
16. How are the wicked removed or taken?
Answer: Severed or ‘cut’. (and sever the wicked from among the just“)
17. What happens to the wicked?
Answer: Thrown into the fire. (and sever the wicked… And shall cast them into the furnace of fire:“)
18. What does “wailing and gnashing of teeth mean?”
Answer: Screams of despair, fear, pain, and anger.

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. – Mat 13:47-50 KJV

Red Fish Net Parable

19. What does a thief do?
Your answer:_______________ hint – (“one will be taken and one left.“)
20. Who is coming to take?
Your answer:_______________ hint – (“…the thief is coming.” or…as a thief comes in the night, UNEXPECTED – No man knows the hour or date.)

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man.

37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. – Mat 24:37-43 ESV

Bonus Question

21. Is “LEFT BEHIND” good or bad?
Your answer:_______________

In this sense, remembering that the wicked are severed from among the just by the angels, we don’t want to be the one’s first taken, or severed. Wherever the lake of fire is, the destination of the tares, we want to remain behind and live in the millennial reign of Christ Jesus.

Closing Point
The final point that should be made about the tribulation period is that certainly none want to go through a period of pain, suffering, and possibly even martyrdom. Furthermore, I believe many will be divinely protected through this having the Blood of the Lamb upon the doorposts and lentil of their hearts. But millions upon millions of believers in Yeshua-Christ Jesus already stand draped in the white robes of heaven.

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. – Rev 7:14 AKJV

The tribulation period is not God’s wrath, but His mercy. Aside from the mercy God gave to us through His Son’s death on the Cross, this 7 year period of tribulation is next only to the Noahic, 120 year grace period, and is an incalculable measure of grace God is giving us to turn back to Him before the “door of the ark is closed.” Just as the people in Noah’s time watched him build the ark for 120 years as a display of God’s abundant grace, so will be this end-time tribulation before the wrath of God is once again poured out over all the world. This time though, leading up to the end will provide a more obvious and glaring warning of God’s definite plan. He will return at the last trump, the seventh trump, coming in the clouds of glory and riding upon a white horse with the armies of heaven (see Rev. 19:11-13 below).

Anything or anyone that claims to be Christ and comes in any other way is not the Son of Man, the Messiah, the LORD Yeshua-Jesus. He is an imposter. If aliens, angels of light, holograms in the sky, or Superman himself say he is come to bring peace and save the earth, go not forth, for he is an imposter; believe it not, he is an antichrist.

Take no mark nor chip nor bow down or make an oath. Stand strong in the Lord Jesus, who has gone before us defeating the pit.

O death, where is thy sting?
O grave, where is thy victory?

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. – 1Cr 15:55-58 KJV

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. – Mat 24:26 KJV

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. – Rev 19:11-13 KJV

Blessings and strength to you in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen


By Keith Kampschaefer
3/25/2013


Pre-Trib Error is Critical

4 Comments on “Pre-Trib Error is Critical”

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trutherator
April 3, 2013
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Pretty good. Just one thing though: take a look at the last verses of Daniel 9, compare it to Jesus’ reference to the abomination of desolation and when it is set up, and that “then” shall be Tribulation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, and get your 3 and 1/2 years of Tribulation. It is repeated in terms of days, months and years in Daniel and Revelation.
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Irv
April 13, 2013
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[Amen, Elijah. I agree totally. Saw the following article on the web. Lord bless.]

Pretrib Rapture Pride

Pretrib rapture promoters like Thomas Ice give the impression they know more than the early Church Fathers, the Reformers, the greatest Greek New Testament scholars including those who produced the KJV Bible, the founders of their favorite Bible schools, and even their own mentors!
Ice’s mentor, Dallas Sem. president John Walvoord, couldn’t find anyone holding to pretrib before 1830 – and Walvoord called John Darby and his Brethren followers “the early pretribulationists” (RQ, pp. 160-62). Ice belittles Walvoord and claims that several pre-1830 persons, including “Pseudo-Ephraem” and a “Rev. Morgan Edwards,” taught a pretrib rapture. Even though the first one viewed Antichrist’s arrival as the only “imminent” event, Ice (and Grant Jeffrey) audaciously claim he expected an “imminent” pretrib rapture! And Ice (and John Bray) have covered up Edwards’ historicism which made a pretrib rapture impossible! Google “Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View” and journalist/historian Dave MacPherson’s “Deceiving and Being Deceived” for documentation on these and similar historical distortions.
The same pretrib defenders, when combing ancient books, deviously read “pretrib” into phrases like “before Armageddon,” “before the final conflagration,” and “escape all these things”!
BTW, the KJV translators’ other writings found in London’s famed British Library (where MacPherson has researched) don’t have even a hint of pretrib rapturism. Is it possible that Ice etc. have found pretrib “proof” in the KJV that its translators never found?
Pretrib merchandisers like Ice claim that nothing is better pretrib proof than Rev. 3:10. They also cover up “Famous Rapture Watchers” (on Google) which shows how the greatest Greek NT scholars of all time interpreted it.
Pretrib didn’t flourish in America much before the 1909 Scofield Bible which has pretribby “explanatory notes” in its margins. Not seen in the margins was jailed forger Scofield’s criminal record throughout his life that David Lutzweiler has documented in his recent book “The Praise of Folly” which is available online.
Biola University’s doctrinal statement says Christ’s return is “premillennial” and “before the Tribulation.” Although universities stand for “academic freedom,” Biola has added these narrow, restrictive phrases – non-essentials the founders purposely didn’t include in their original doctrinal statement when Biola was just a small Bible institute! And other Christian schools have also belittled their founders.
Ice, BTW, has a “Ph.D” issued by a tiny Texas school that wasn’t authorized to issue degrees! Ice now says that he’s working on another “Ph.D” via the University of Wales in Britain. For light on the degrees of Ice’s scholarliness, Google “Bogus degree scandal prompts calls to wind up University of Wales,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “be careful in polemics – Peripatetic Learning,” and “Walvoord Melts Ice.” Also Google “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)” – featured by media luminary Joe Ortiz on his Jan. 30, 2013 “End Times Passover” blog.
Other fascinating Google articles include “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “X-raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrets,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” and “Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism” – most from the author of “The Rapture Plot,” the most accurate documentation on pretrib rapture history.
Can anyone guess who the last proud pretrib rapture holdout will be?
(Postscript: For another jolt or two Google “The Background Obama Can’t Cover Up.”)
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elijah1757
April 14, 2013
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Thank you for the encouraging and supportive reply. I look forward to hyperlinking all of the “truth on pretrib” search phrases and titles you’ve shared in your comment… as well a reading and learning about the deeper agenda of this heresy.
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2 comments on “Pre-Trib Error is Critical

  1. Cindy Hardcastle
    November 7, 2013

    All of the Christians I know, both family and friends believe the pre-trib. They will not hear of my warnings to them to put away food, water and become spiritually prepared. They say they will not be here for antichrists’ reign so there is no need. I am derided as the one “who doesn’t believe in the rapture” no matter how much I tell them that I do. They prefer to take the word of an Hagee or Stanley who neither knows or cares for them. I am now a 2nd class Christian to them for this belief. They accuse me of taking out of context when I attempt to give a reason, they will not hear of it and are incensed at my suggestion pretrib is a tickling of the ears .

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  2. elijah1757
    July 7, 2014

    I believe the Bible is very clear that there is no ‘secret return’ of Jesus Christ. We have the analogy or corollary of the first ‘earthly judgment as a reference. “As in the days of Noah…” Being in the ark representing being in Jesus Christ. God closed the door of the ark. CURTAINS! Those ‘in’ were saved, those ‘out’ were washed away by the flood (wrath). The door closing represents the end, the “point of no return” where the wheat and the tares are separated. To interpret the Scriptures as including an “early harvest” is to find in Genesis a secret schooner that came along before the ark. The pre or mid trib rapture teaching is a Jesuit device to emasculate the church, create complacency, and divide Israel, the Body of Christ. ______ When we understand the Vatican’s counter reformation was a tactical war against the Reformation and the Jesuits were the agent provocateur, it presents a much clearer and much larger picture of what has actually been the cause of the Protestant divisions. Anyone who is sincerely seeking the truth will begin to understand this by reading THE EXTREME JESUIT OATH OF INDUCTION which can be found here. http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

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